JTsStang
Boosted V6
They do a lot of work with supra and other imports.http://www.supraforums.com/forum/member.php?43215-Full-Race-Geoff
Hi new to posting but ive been reading through your conversations for weeks! Lol
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I think i cant see it because their website is having a security breach issue that they are in the process of correcting.. all i get is the forum home page.. i tried to hotlink it with no avail.. ill check it again later what does the link consist of?..
Dam i wanted to get a big bov and wastegate so i can up boost or swap motors with only having to get injectors and piping but a friend of mine said i might actually encounter a minimum pressure problem so ima go with the 48mm bov and 50 mm wastegate which is still pretty big but a little more realistic...
Dam i wanted to get a big bov and wastegate so i can up boost or swap motors with only having to get injectors and piping but a friend of mine said i might actually encounter a minimum pressure problem so ima go with the 48mm bov and 50 mm wastegate which is still pretty big but a little more realistic...
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Yea really like one day later too.. cant beat it with a stick
yea well I hurd in another thread that the sct one had more range and was easier to tune down low or something ...honestly I had one person that spoke with a little confidence that one was better than the other so for reliability purposes and of course to make this first jump down the FI rabbit hole a little down the road wen it all comes together I really want to get it mostly right the first time I will be soooo proud of myself and u guys and he internet and just life in general if I can fire this thing up at the muffler shop or do a dyno pull wit no problems ima be like wow ... I did it .... wats next!?
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I still dont know what im going to do about the fuel rail... the f150 fuel rail seems to be the only thing available anything more high performance is custom made? Even now 15 years later nobody has a ford v6 fuel rail.. is this true? I would imagine that the f150 one can be used with e85? I would rather an aluminum one with less restriction for fuel temps..
Spdricer
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I got my turbo and my flange now but no gasket dont they have like carbon fiber gaskets for something as hot as this
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Thank you phil as usual ur feedback is welcomed and appreciated here.. I suppose i will do more research... but these would be super sweet though right lol if price is the only issue i donno phil im getting itchy with this trigger in my hand lol
..its just that these gave me that warm and fuzzy feeling inside
..its just that these gave me that warm and fuzzy feeling inside
JTsStang
Boosted V6
It's a steel gasket. You need to get an injector that's supported by sct tuning software. Those injectors are rated for 1600cc and say they are high impendance, I don't know about that. I'd bet anything they'd require an injector driver on your ecu. Like Phil said, go id1000 or deatchwerks 95lb injector. You're on a stock motor though, you could get by with 39's on gas or 60s with e85.
You need to state your goal and what future plans are for a built motor.
You need to state your goal and what future plans are for a built motor.
JTsStang
Boosted V6
I would do some research on those injectors. That would include multiple calls to various injectors companies. 1600cc converts to 150lb.
you need air to make hp and that air has to go through the turbo which is basically a fan ...fans have cfm ratings at a set speed and a turbo has a max speed at which it can move so many cfm or lbs of air , with the air known you can only burn so much fuel so you know how much hp it can support , basically 40lb min will support 400hp , 50lb/min will support 500hp 60lb will support 600hp
for 600 lbs per min you need 300lb hr of fuel (thats at a .5 bsfc),
easy to calculate fuel needs is 600hp divide by 2 (BSFC 0.5) then divided by 6 (6 injectors) is 50lb /hr per injector. thats about 85% duty cycle on a 60# injector .. thats the fuel needed for the horsepower. bsfc for e85 is going to be around .80-.85.
you need air to make hp and that air has to go through the turbo which is basically a fan ...fans have cfm ratings at a set speed and a turbo has a max speed at which it can move so many cfm or lbs of air , with the air known you can only burn so much fuel so you know how much hp it can support , basically 40lb min will support 400hp , 50lb/min will support 500hp 60lb will support 600hp
for 600 lbs per min you need 300lb hr of fuel (thats at a .5 bsfc),
easy to calculate fuel needs is 600hp divide by 2 (BSFC 0.5) then divided by 6 (6 injectors) is 50lb /hr per injector. thats about 85% duty cycle on a 60# injector .. thats the fuel needed for the horsepower. bsfc for e85 is going to be around .80-.85.
Spdricer
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Ok ok geez! Lol i screwed up on the injectors i get it lol wow here i am thinking im all alone here in my lonely thread ..talking to myself ..chatting away into la la land but boy was i wrong! I guess im getting most of it right so far lol cause it wasent till i screwed up that now we gotta convo! Lol im jp but seriously thank u so much guys for saving me all the times you hav already! I knew as soon as i found this site i was home... which is weird because i never saw it before and i do alot of google searches that hav me end up in all the mustang related forums out there..
so yea i didnt realize how big those injectors are... i will not be using those please excuse me for jumping the gun and posting that prematurely.
A little update.. i just got word that my mercedes is ready and i hav to drop 4 grand to get it out of the shop so that should stop me from buying parts for about a month... so im just gonna do things that dont cost money which is a lot... but with the rain and me cutting my hand and my checks are smaller now because of the rain things have slowed up a little ...mostly because i need my daily and im sick of the na v6 in this 2011 buick lacross i want my turbo i4 benzo back already its a whole different driving experience ...waiting for the lag to be over lol u gotta plan ahead lmao but wen that wastegate opens tho!
anyway thanks again guys i really appreciate it...
Yea 60ib flex fuel sct compatible injectors sounds good to me
i would have to look around some more to find the exact ones
I have time...
Spdricer out!
so yea i didnt realize how big those injectors are... i will not be using those please excuse me for jumping the gun and posting that prematurely.
A little update.. i just got word that my mercedes is ready and i hav to drop 4 grand to get it out of the shop so that should stop me from buying parts for about a month... so im just gonna do things that dont cost money which is a lot... but with the rain and me cutting my hand and my checks are smaller now because of the rain things have slowed up a little ...mostly because i need my daily and im sick of the na v6 in this 2011 buick lacross i want my turbo i4 benzo back already its a whole different driving experience ...waiting for the lag to be over lol u gotta plan ahead lmao but wen that wastegate opens tho!
anyway thanks again guys i really appreciate it... Yea 60ib flex fuel sct compatible injectors sounds good to me
i would have to look around some more to find the exact ones
I have time...
Spdricer out!
Spdricer
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Wats a steel gasket?
My goals are formula 1 inspired i want to heavily sleeve it so much that it drops almost a liter with another set of water jackets i want to shorten the stroke if that is possible.. basically in my dreams i want to try and recreate a lower budget than formula 1 obviously ..high revving turbo v6 i want to hit 10k on 30 pounds slam gears and do it all over again...
It might be easier with an ohc but im not there yet... but yea i know a torque monster is great too but i want a high revving tv6 thats just the way it is... so yes those are my ultimate build goals
But formula 1 uses things that seem out of reach nitrogen valves pistons that have oil being constantly injected underneath the quality of metal ...a lot! Way more than i can just write here right now
But i am fully prepared to make it happen and find some happy medium between a regular high performance engine build and a ultra high performance high revving engine build..
Phil II
Cone Destroyer
A steel gasket is a gasket made of steel alloy.
Hate to burst your bubble, but this engine is very far removed from Formula 1. Its best quality amongst six cylinders is the torque, not rpm. The basic architecture dates back to either the early 80's or late 70's.
I'm offering you two ideas. I don't necessarily recommend either.
1) Build a 4.5 liter SVO v6. Very expensive. See SCCOA and V6Power.net.
2) Sell everything, get a Porsche 996 and fix the IMS bearing. Or a 997.
Or just slow down a minute, learn the math, do it so that you'll be happy the first time. Or really close to it.
Hate to burst your bubble, but this engine is very far removed from Formula 1. Its best quality amongst six cylinders is the torque, not rpm. The basic architecture dates back to either the early 80's or late 70's.
I'm offering you two ideas. I don't necessarily recommend either.
1) Build a 4.5 liter SVO v6. Very expensive. See SCCOA and V6Power.net.
2) Sell everything, get a Porsche 996 and fix the IMS bearing. Or a 997.
Or just slow down a minute, learn the math, do it so that you'll be happy the first time. Or really close to it.
Spdricer
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Lol i meant wat gasket are u reffering too...
Funny that you mentioned that i was contemplating trading in the mercedes for a porsche but wen i saw how much they cost 80 grand i decided that yes i could afford that if i really wanted too but i decided it would be sooo much more fun to build up the old mustang instead soo my stang was 2100 the white one was 3100 i have about 10 grand in mine by now 3 grand in turbo parts so far so the way i see it is i still got 60 grand left to spend to amount just the sticker price let alone the interest...
I guess my point is its not the destination its the journey.
Im just building a turbo kit at this point
Honestly im never ever satisfied i will most likely swap a fully built coyote once the kinks are ironed out with the turbo kit...
Funny that you mentioned that i was contemplating trading in the mercedes for a porsche but wen i saw how much they cost 80 grand i decided that yes i could afford that if i really wanted too but i decided it would be sooo much more fun to build up the old mustang instead soo my stang was 2100 the white one was 3100 i have about 10 grand in mine by now 3 grand in turbo parts so far so the way i see it is i still got 60 grand left to spend to amount just the sticker price let alone the interest...
I guess my point is its not the destination its the journey.
Im just building a turbo kit at this point
Honestly im never ever satisfied i will most likely swap a fully built coyote once the kinks are ironed out with the turbo kit...
JTsStang
Boosted V6
Wrong engine to mod for 10k rpm. For that rpm swap in a 2jzgte or as stated look into the svo. What is the hp goal? With the right mods, tune, and lots of practice these cars can go 9's with roughly 550rwhp. They work very well at the drag strip, not the best on road racing imo. Much better platforms out there for that racing.
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